WE MUSLIMS ARE MORE CHRISTIAN THAN THE CHRISTIAN - REFUTED

 
Here's a Transcript of my YouTube Video - Do Muslims follow Jesus and a response to one of the common claims made by Muslim apologists like Dr. Zakir Naik.
 

Who is a true Christian? The one who reads the Bible or the Muslims? Well, this is the question we are going to discuss today. Because there’s a wonderful claim by Dr. Zakir Naik where he has made this argument very famous and many of his followers and many Muslims use this claim while doing Dawah. What do I mean by “Dawah”?  “Dawah”, means preaching the message of Islam. Now, the statement that I often hear while talking to Muslims, they say “Islam is the only non Christian faith which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus”. And they say, “No Muslim is a Muslim if he doesn’t believe in Jesus.
Wow! That’s Amazing! What do they believe? I do not know. So, how do we know what they believe about Jesus? To know what they believe, let us allow their scholar to speak for themselves and we will let Dr. Zakir Naik explain in what way they follow Jesus Christ and his teachings. Let’s take a quick look at this video clip where Dr. Zakir Naik will help us to learn something new which as a Christian we do not know.

Video Clip –
Dr. Naik: So What I am asking you, if you know the teachings Jesus Christ PBUH. If you say Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ PBUH, it is mentioned in the book of Ephesians chapter number 5, verse number 18, that do not be drunk with wine, its mentioned in the book of Proverbs chapter 20, verse 1,  that wine is a mocker, whoever deceives has it. We Muslims, we don’t have alcohol but many of the Christians have alcohol. Furthermore, we Muslims don’t have pork. Its mentioned in the bible, in the book of Leviticus chapter 11, verse 7-8, in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 8, in the book of Isaiah chapter 65, verse 2-5, that you should not have pork. We Muslims don’t have pork but Christians have pork most of them. Furthermore, Jesus Christ PBUH he was circumcised on the 8th day according to Gospel of Luke Ch 2 V. 21 we Muslims are circumcised most of the Christians are not. If Christian means, a person who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ PBUH, I am proud to say “We Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves”.

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Alright, we have a great claim from Dr. Zakir Naik. That’s amazing! “More Christian than the Christians”. Well, Muslims are more Christian than the Christians. We will discuss this claim shortly. Before we discuss this argument, I want to highlight two things from this video clip of Dr. Zakir Naik.
1.  Look at the inconsistency of Dr. Zakir Naik. You have heard him in my previous video and in many places while he is lecturing. He doesn’t accept Jesus as God because Jesus didn’t say “I am God or worship Me” explicitly. Now in this video clip, he says “Christian means the one follows the teachings of Jesus Christ so we Muslims follow the teaching of Jesus Christ”. Let me ask Dr. Zakir Naik, he said “Circumcision, eating pork, alcohol etc.” Did Jesus teach all these things? I didn’t read in my Bible, I didn’t read in any of the gospels where Jesus himself saying “Do not drink wine, avoid alcohol, I do not read in my gospels (Bible) where Jesus says “Be circumcised”, I do not read in my gospel/Injeel (Bible) where Jesus says “Do not eat pork”. So these are not the statements of Jesus then why is Zakir Naik so inconsistent. He is okay with these statements where Jesus did not say these things. Or can I say, just now, Dr. Zakir Naik proved that Jesus is God? Remember, he said “Jesus’ teaching” and he quoted something from Deuteronomy, Leviticus, Isaiah and he is affirming that the one who revealed this in the Old Testament is actually “Jesus”. Thank you! Dr. Zakir Naik, for proving Jesus is God.

2. “Most of them” claim: If you listened carefully in this video, while Dr. Zakir Naik was accusing people for drinking alcohol, eating pork and not being circumcised, have you heard him? He said, “Most of them”, “Many of them”. So, for Dr. Zakir Naik, “Most of them” and “Many of them” makes Christianity. If I use the same standard for Islam and say “All terrorist are Muslims, should I say that: He would say, No No, you cannot say because in one of his video clips he said “There’s a huge difference between Muslims and Islam, Muslims are not perfect but Islam is perfect”. Now, when it comes to Christianity, If Christians are corrupt, Many of the Christians or some of the Christians drink alcohol, eat pork, not circumcised – Here you have a Christian who drinks alcohol, therefore, Christianity is false. Did you see the inconsistency? That’s what the problem is with these types of “dawah” preachers. I always remember, Proverbs 26:5 which I used in my previous video clips which says “Answer a fool according to his folly”. Now, this preacher, this apologist should be answered according to his foolishness because the claims that he is using is backfiring against him. Not only that, it shows his inconsistencies as well.

Alright, let me come back to the main topic of this video where he says “The one who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ PBUH”. He gave top 3 teachings of Jesus Christ which Jesus himself didn’t say or teach.
I am going to give Top 10 teachings of Jesus Christ which Jesus taught his disciples and followers and believers. What are those?
 
Top 10 Teaching of Jesus Christ
1. The first teaching that can shake Islam, Quran and Muslims is, calling God “Father”. I read some ayat(verse) from the Quran, Surah Al Maidah 5:18, Surah Al Tawbah 9:10, Surah Al Isra 17:111.  These 3 ayat(verse) which I quoted clearly tells me that Allah is not a father to anyone. In Islam, you don’t have any relationship with God; all you have is “Master and Slave”. Do Muslims follow this teaching of Jesus Christ of calling God “FATHER”? If they call Allah “Father”, they committed “Shirk”. So either ways, Islam is false or this preacher is ignorant of what he is talking about.
I am very happy and glad that Dr. Zakir Naik has helped us by setting a standard by saying “Jesus’ teaching is what to be believed and followed”. And we are checking out those teachings in the light of scriptures(Bible) and we are learning whether Muslims are Christians, or do they really follow Jesus Christ and his teachings.

2. The lightning bolt for Muslims: “Jesus Taught Baptism”. If you read Matthew chapter 28:19, Jesus commands his disciples to go all across the world and preach the kingdom of heaven and baptize them in the name of Father, in the name of Son, in the name of Holy Spirit. Also in John 3:5 we read the same thing, where Jesus teaches baptism. Does any Muslim take baptism? Have you ever heard of any Muslim taking baptism in the name of Father, in the name of Son, in the name of Holy Spirit? No! That means they do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. I don’t think this claim (of Zakir Naik) is valid or should be taken seriously.
3. “Jesus taught us to pray in “HIS NAME”: John 14:13-14 and several other passages say, we should be praying in the name of Jesus. Jesus tells us, tells his believer, his disciples to ask anything they want in his (Jesus) name and he (says) “I will do it for you”, “Ask in my name”. Point out a single Muslim who prays in the name of Jesus or invokes Jesus. In Islam, Invoking according to Muhammad is a part of worship. So Jesus is being worshipped and he (Jesus) demands worship when he says “Pray to me, I am the one who is going to answer your prayer”.
4. “Jesus is the only Way”Jesus taught us, his believers, his disciples that “I am the only way of salvation, through me you will have eternal life”. Let me quote some passages so that you can cross check after this video. John 14:6, John 6:35; John 11:25; John 6:53, 56; Jesus teaches that “I am the way” “Through me is eternal Life” “No one can give you eternal life except me”. Do Muslims believe that Jesus is the only way”? I don’t think so! Islam doesn’t allow that.
So, in what way Muslims, in what way Dr. Zakir Naik you claim without any shame that you are the true Christian and you are more Christian than the Christians? I do not know!

5. “New Covenant” - The fifth of top 10 teachings of Jesus Christ is this. We read in John 6:53-56, Matthew 26: 26-28 where Jesus teaches his disciples to take part in the new covenant i.e., eating the bread as the flesh of Jesus, drinking the wine as the blood of Jesus. Now tell me, one mosque in the entire world where this practice is observed? I do not know! This is the teaching of Jesus Christ and no Muslims follow this teaching and still they claim that we are more Christian than the Christians.
6. “Jesus taught us to Fast in Secret”Matthew 6:16-18, the Muslims fast is not secret, it’s known to the entire world. When they fast, the entire world knows that they are fasting.
7. “Divine attributes & Names” - The seventh of top 10 teachings is one of my favorites, where Muslims will find it very difficult. Jesus claims divinity by ascribing himself the divine attributes and names that belongs to God alone”. You can read it in Quran or in the Bible, these attributes and names are only ascribed or attributed to the only True God. What are those? Let me read some of the names that Jesus ascribed to himself:
1. Jesus Is AL – HAQ (I am The Truth): John 14:6 where Jesus says “I am THE TRUTH”, “I am AL-HAQ”, what does this AL-HAQ mean? AL-HAQ means “Only God is THE TRUTH” no one else “THE TRUTH”. This name is only attributed to Allah or God YHWH of the Bible. 
2. Jesus Is AL- AWWAL (The First) - Revelations 1:8
3. Jesus Is AL- AKHIR (The Last) - Revelations 1:8, where we read as “Alpha & Omega”. In Quran we read Allah is Alpha & Omega but here Jesus himself says “I am Alpha & Omega”
4. Jesus is AL-HAYY (The Ever Living) – Revelations 1:18
5. Jesus Is AL – KHALIQ (The Creator) – John 1:3
6. Jesus is AL – HAKAM (The Judge) – John 5:22
7. Jesus is AL – MUHYI (The Giver of Life) – John 10:28
8. Jesus is AL – BAITH (The Resurrector) - John 11:25, 26
9. Jesus is AN – NOOR (The Light) – John 8:12 “I am the Light of the World”
10. Jesus is AL – MALIK (The King) – John 18:36, Luke 23:3.

These are the attributes or special names which is only attributed to God which Jesus is using for himself and If I say to any Muslim that Jesus is Al-Awwal, Al-Akhir, Al-Hayy, An-noor, Al-Haq, he would say “Come on, you are committing shirk” because when I use this name for a mere creature or a mere prophet I am committing shirk but according to Dr. Zakir Naik Jesus’ teaching is to be believed and followed so I am using his own standard proving that Jesus is God and at the same Muslims do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.
8. “Trinity” - The eight of top 10 teachings of Jesus is “Jesus taught trinity” and Quran rejects it. No Muslim accepts trinity as Father-Son-Holy Spirit rather they believe in Islamic trinity which is “Father-Mother-Son” which is absurd. No known Christian would believe or accept this type of claim. Matthew 28:19; John 14:16-17 where Jesus says “I will ask the father and he will send you another comforter”. So we have 3 distinct persons, “Jesus, Father and Holy Spirit”. Here you have a teaching from the gospel where Jesus himself is speaking. Also, in Matthew 28:19 Jesus commands his disciples to go and baptize all in the name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, this is an affirmation of trinity.
9. “Crucifixion-Death-Resurrection” - The ninth of top 10 teachings of Jesus which Muslims do not follow is: Jesus taught his disciples about his “Crucifixion-Death-Resurrection.” More than two times he told his disciples and taught them to believe. Where do we read this? Matthew 16:21. There are many scriptures where Jesus tells them or teaches them about his crucifixion, his death and his resurrection but no Muslim believes it because Quran doesn’t allow them to believe. Either this way or that way, which standard should I accept? Dr. Zakir naik’s, one should follow the teachings of Jesus Christ to be called “More Christian than the Christians. Are you more Christian than the Christians after listening to this 9 teachings of Jesus? I don’t think so!
10. “Torah & Zabur” - When you read the Bible and the historicity of Jesus it tells us that Jesus used Torah which means the book of Moses and Psalm. You do not find the same Torah as in the Bible in Quran. You do not find the same Zabur (Psalm) in the Quran as it is. Where it has gone? And still you claim that we Muslims are more Christian than the Christians because we follow the teachings of Jesus Christ?
So these are the real top 10 teachings of Jesus Christ which Muslims do not follow. Dr. Zakir Naik you are lying, do not deceive your people, you will be answerable and you have to give account for everything that you do. Out of ignorance? I do not know! You want to deceive? I do not know! But the time is very near, repent and come back to Jesus.
We have a “group of people” who are claiming to be the true followers of Jesus and his teachings. When you scrutinize their claim, they are actually not following, not even 1% of what Jesus taught. Rather they follow the teachings which Jesus didn’t teach ever during his earthly ministry.

Let’s have a quick look at Top 5 teachings Jesus never taught yet Muslims follow that.
1. Importance of Hajj or Mecca (Pilgrimage) – I don’t read in any of the gospels Jesus emphasizing on Pilgrimage or himself doing it
2. Jesus didn’t tell us to add “Peace be upon him/them” after taking any name of the prophet or after writing it. Have you ever read in the gospel where Jesus says “Moses PBUH”? No! I did not read it. If you find any Bible please let me know, I would be glad to read it.
3. Jesus never taught us that a new prophet would come after him. All he taught is about Anti-Christ would come after him.
4. Jesus never told us to “Bow towards Mecca” during our prayer. Muslims do that.
5. Jesus never taught us to hate the unbelievers or infidels and if I open the Quran it tells me “Do not take friends from Jews and Christians”, “They are worst of creation”, they are dogs, they are donkeys and all the filthy words are used for unbelievers like us.
Muslims claim to follow the teachings of Jesus but they are not! But they follow the teachings which Jesus never taught or preached.
 Time to Think, Time to Change!
May God open the eyes of my Muslim friends to see the An-Noor (Light) & Al-Haq (The Truth) who is Jesus Christ.

Your loving Friend,
Francis


10 comments:

  1. Muslims are more CHRISTIAN THAN CHRISTIANS (DR ZAKAR) Do MUSLIMS really know what they are talking about? Aren’t they the most ignorant and pitiful lots on this planet?

    “To be a christian one must follow the teaching of Jesus Christ” say the Muslims. So what is the teaching of Jesus Christ? Is strictly adhering to 613 Laws of Moses the teaching of Jesus Christ?

    BIBLE
    The Bible consists of OLD COVENANT (39 books) & NEW COVENANT (27 books). The OLD COVENANT what makes JUDAISM - the EXCLUSIVE Religion of the JEWS ONLY. The gist of JUDAISM is the LAW OF MOSES – 613 Commandments of DOS AND DON’TS. Old Covenant is NOT for GENTILES (and it is definitely NOT for CHRISTIANS either).

    Dr. Zakar, if indeed you’re strictly following the Law of Moses, refraining pork more than the JEWS, REFRAINING FROM ALCOHOL more that the JEWS, then YOU ARE MORE JEWISH THAN THE JEWS and NOT more Christian than Christians. By making such a foolish statement you’ve proved yourself to be not only A FOOL but indeed A FALSE TEACHER! Islam should be ashamed that their so called SCHOLAR turns out to be A FALSE TEACHER. SHAME ON ISLAM! SHAME ON THE ZAKAR OF ZAKIR!

    The Old Covenant prophesied among others the coming of Jesus Christ, the church, the false prophets, the false teachers, the false religions and many more.

    PROPHECY ON THE IDENTITY AND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST

    Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and his name shall be called Emmanuel (God with man). (Isaiah 7:14)

    For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon[d] his shoulder, and his name shall be called[e] Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6)

    The Jews and nowadays Muslims are having great difficulty in trying to understand this prophecy – A CHILD IS BORN IS A MIGHTY GOD. God in human flesh or God clothed Himself in human flesh. The All-Mighty god of Islam when comes to ‘clothing’ himself with human flesh is NOT that mighty at all, HE JUST CAN’T DO IT. But to the true ALL POWERFUL GOD of the BIBLE He can. Nothing is impossible to Him!

    Prior to ‘clothing’ Himself with human flesh He is 100% God and after He put on the attributes of humanity He too a 100 % God but with human flesh. The one crucified on the cross is his ‘cloth’ the flesh. We can’t crucify God cos He is a spirit and can never die. Is it too hard to digest?

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    1. As I was reading Francis's response to Zakir Naik, and I had to appreciate his respect and his logical approach.
      But I feel offended by the comment of "Petra" when he/she says "Aren’t they the most ignorant and pitiful lots on this planet?"
      These inclusive offensive aggressive responses can't play any role of preaching the "right" religion.
      I claim to be someone who have my own brain and can't allow other's to "think" for me, or decide the truths beside me.
      When I heard Zakir's point, I didn't take it enthusiastically like mainstream Muslims. I decided to look for a response from the "other" party, and google have lead me to this post.
      I have to admit then that Zakir's point was "emotional" which aims to promote certain idea, and is not necessarily. And we "Muslims" will stay "ignorant and pitiful" on the planet, and will leave wisdom and dignity exclusively to the mainstream Christians like Petra.

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    2. Izz- So you also stoop to sarcasm and the condemnation of a group which you say you find objectionable? Jesus did not teach "an eye for an eye" either. He is GOD and therefore sets a much higher goal.

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    PROPHECY OF THE NEW COVENANT

    Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah (Jer. 31:31)

    Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the NEW COVENANT, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” (Matt 26:26-28)

    INTERMEDIARY STATE

    It starts with the ministry of Jesus to the JEWS (Recorded in the four Gospels) until His physical death at the Calvary). Jesus is sent to the JEWS ONLY during His earthly ministry.
    Then Jesus said to the (Gentile) woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel." (Matt 15:24)

    PENTECOST (Acts 2)

    Then the Holy Spirit the Comforter promises by Jesus filled the believers [all JEWS] (John 14:15-28; 16: 5-16) (at this stage there is still no Christian as yet).

    Muslims ignorantly concur that the Comforter is MUHAMMAD…hahahahahahahaa. (Muslims are the best CLOWNS of the ages… Heaven and earth really laugh like shit at the Muslims for their stupidity .. hahahaha) Shame on the ZAKAR of DR Zakir hahaha

    He (the Comforter) is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. (John 14;17)

    Did MUHAMMAD live with the disciples of Jesus Christ then? (Even his great great great great grand parents were not born yet…)

    Does MUHAMMED now live IN Christians? If what MUSLIMS claim is true that the Comforter is MUHAMMAD and now MUHAMMAD lives in every Christian then every Christian is their PROPHET. So listen to Christians and let THEM teach you the truth or else you MUSLIMS INSULT your own PROPHET since Muhammad is in US so we are your prophets! Haahaaa Idiot!

    THE HOLY SPIRIT FILLS THE GENTILES

    Jesus anointed Apostle Peter and Paul to initiate the conversion of the gentiles (Acts 9 – 22). This ministry is to fulfill His prophecy as follows:

    I will also have compassion on her who had not obtained compassion (gentiles), And I will say to those who were not My people (gentiles), 'You are My people!' And they will
    say, 'You are my God!'" (Hosea 2:23).

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    FIRST CHRISTIAN

    The first Gentile church was founded in Acts 11:20-21, where it is recorded that the disciples of Jesus Christ were first called Christians Acts 11:19-26. It was from Antioch that St. Paul started on his missionary journeys. To be a christian one must accept JESUS AS HER/HIS LORD AND SAVIOR and christian means CHRISTLIKE (in term of character, attitude and hope). Christians are not under the LAWS OF MOSES but under the GRACE OF GOD.

    "Besides, who would patch old clothing (OLD COVENANT) with new cloth (NEW COVENANT)? For the new patch would shrink and rip away from the old cloth, leaving an even bigger tear than before. (Matt 9:16)

    For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believes (in His atoning death) (Rome 10:4).
    For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God (Ephesus 2:8)

    … you (Christians) are not under the law (of Moses), but under grace (Rome 6;14).

    Hey the donkeys of Arabia. What really come to your mind when WE CHRISTIANS are NOT under the LAW of Moses but under GRACE OF GOD? Surely the camels & donkeys of Arabia see stars and moons??? Heehee I put it in a very simple term coz I know that MUSLIMS don’t have the brain to understand what is salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ (Messiah/Savior).

    Let say our destination is MOON and we are here on the planet earth. Muhammad gave you the compass (Koran) that leads your way to the moon and your compass points to Mt Everest the highest peak on the planet. The journey there is difficult with many valleys, rivers, ravines, ridges, boulders (signifies Laws) to overcome. On top of that you are asked to carry a 100 kg load (signifies sins and weaknesses)on your back. You Muslims practice hard, diet nicely, discipline yourselves very hard to build your muscles and boost your stamina with vitamins etc etc. You brag about your strength, big muscles etc etc. Then off we go on our journey. May be DR ZAKAR might reach the top of Mt Everest the highest peak on earth, but still you can’t reach your destination –the MOON. You are still FALL SHORT. You can’t leap from the top of Mt Everest to reach the MOON – just cannot! What a pitiful day for DR. ZAKAR and his kinds. Hahahah…

    Then the Christians whom THEY (MUSLIMS) despised were offered the astronaut suits and then were ushered into the ‘ROCKET’. In no time they reach their destination. They reached their destination not by their own effort but by MEAN. This is a simple analogy of SALVATION (reaching heaven) by GRACE and not by work. (Any light at the end of the tunnel or are you still lost in the darkest cave ever?) Idiot.

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    1. Why don't you have a conversation with him in real life directly? Keep the Bible with you.

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  5. zakir naikh tries to convince you christians but instead of you convincing the mulims,you end trying to re-confuse your fellow christians. prophet muhammad taught the quran and that did not mean the quran was his words...the statement that dr zakir naikh is inconsistent is just a wanna defend my self statement" he said and i quote "if " f Christian means, a person who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ PBUH, I am proud to say “We Muslims are more Christian than the Christians themselves”. so he isnt claiming but he used a conditional term "if" and he didnt say jesus (peace be upon him) said in the bible but quoted the bible obviously jesus was a preacher,prophet and as well a teacher. so saying that jesus didnt say any of the above quotations which dr zakir never said were words from jesus,you are also in a way confirming that the bible isnt all words of God.not even holy.

    most of you christians know the truth but you are be stubborn and deviant and dont want to accept defeat and truth.

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  6. We know the truth of Jesus Christ,we are stubbornly and deviantly put our trust in our Lord Jesus,because He is the way,the truth and the life;but your teachings are the contrary and easily uncovered as false by its result in mass killing,etc.

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  7. Stop condemning a religion of peace pls.....
    beheading, stoning, terrorising, deceiving..... peaceful in the name of Allah!
    How long shall we continue to deceive ourselves? how can God teach us to be so violent? I pray God touches all Muslims to realize the truth and return to him in Jesus name. Imagine the zeal Muslims have for Allah was for God......

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